- If you're having trouble with the site, you can still access and download an mp3 of the press release here.
- *If you download the mp3 and then look at the properties (right click-properties) there are some letters and numbers in the "comments" area. So what's this all about?
00000062 00000073 00002140 00001429 000000B6
000138F5 00007DB1 00006151 000000D0 000138DB
000138F5 00007DB1 00006151 000000D0 000138DB
Oceanic Air Commercial
1/31- 11:02 pm: During the show Eli Stone on ABC, they had an Oceanic commercial. In it they are touting a "Golden Pass" but Sam hacks the commercial. (Please excuse the video quality...I did my best.)
1/31- 11:27 pm: The Maxwell Group site has a new press release from Oscar Talbot.- There are some undersea pictures of the wreckage of Flight 815.
- Sam tells us, "We found it," and "You can't trust these people."
- The flight attendants in the commercial continue to direct us to www.FlyOceanicAir.com for details.
- DocArtz has the HQ version of the commercial up.
- Find815 has a new look. It seems they are trying to attract all of the Lost viewers that missed the game the first time around.
The Maxwell Group Updates
- There's an audio interview there detailing how they found the wreckage. Click here or here (UCLAradio link from the page) to listen.
- The Maxwell Group reports a new message when you attempt to log-in as of 7:01 am 2/1:
Authentication Error
The username or password you entered was incorrect.
Click here to return to homepage
Server updated and secured.
- HERE is the version Robin Hood sent.
- Fenris did some noise reduction, and compressed and normalized it. HERE is the modified version.
- After listening to both I can hear the words "two" (at 1 min. 21 sec. in the press release) "common" (at 1 min. 27 sec. in the press release) and "half-hour" (at 1 min. 46 sec. in the press release) in both sets of audio.
- These "blips" are certainly sound bytes from the press release. ~Ange
142 comments:
Okay. I understand the concepts here. What I don't get is where you got this media release, and the audio. It's not no TMG.com for me, and I cleared out my entire cache and cookies and the works.
first? OMG that is a first!
**not on TMG.com**
nope-2nd!!!
I can't get anything to load or work-I'm thinkin' I may do this tomorrow....
I still just have the log in page at TMG too.
Kyle I took a screen cap of TMG page I have and posted it up front. It is there.
Yes, it's there. Getting it to do anything is another story.
Find815 is back up!
Wow, thanks for posting the commercial here, my local ABC station ran their own ads right over the Oceanic ad and I didn't get to see it. I believe that ya'll are the first to post the ad on a blog!! :-D
What a surprise, the commercial was at the VERY END of Eli Stone! Who would have guessed. :)
Ditto on the thanks for posting this. I didn't get to see all the way through Eli Stone, so I dunno if my market even played the commercial (although ABC-NY is a major affiliate, so I'd be shocked if it didn't).
This is the only way I'd get to see it. Congrats on being first!!
so now what do we do?
Thanks for not picking on my crappy camera holding skills! I think I am all done for tonight...GOODNIGHT GANG!
Yeah, that's the $64,000 question Amused, what do we do now? :-)
Whoa! I was just about to go to bed and thought I would check in over here first. Glad I did. Your audio link didn't work for me. Probably to many people trying it.
Going to try TMG. BRB
Well, I can't see nuthin. I'm calling it quits for the night, right after I re-store all my passwords for Gmail and whatnot.
Goodnight Ange, and thank you again, and most importantly your camera holding skills are excellent! :)
Amused it most certainly did air here, I doubt that the commercials changed over a mles distance... lol
Well for starters we listen to the podcast from TMG website that Ange posted a link to on the main page.
Easier said than done.....I can't get it to load all of the way.
I know what I'm going to do....I'm gonna go wash my brain out with soap so I can get that stupid George Michael song out of my head. :-p
Yeah, nothing's working. Poor from TPTB, they should expect this! Oh well. Until tomorrow, then.
I still have nothing on Maxwell either. I don't get it. Going to watch Stardust with my son and take a break I think.
thanks for the confirmation Ded. It's good to know help isn't far away!
capcom LOL
I know what you mean that stupid song is running through my head too.
LOL Capcom! I wonder how many of us will be humming "Faith" on line in the convenience store tomorrow?
roflmbo
ARG! nuttin works dag-nabbit. Where is Sayid to fix the gizmos when you need him?.. lol
No kidding- thanks a lot Eli Stone stupid George Michael song.
I don't have anything on TMG either. And find815 has been loading for me for the past 20 minutes. And I have too many windows and blogger sites open at one time- I'm confused...but I gotta have faith, faith, faith.
Nothing is working for me on the west coast at 8:54 pm! My Maxwell site does not have the press release. I can't get the audio to work in the link, the Oceanic Airline site is the same. Maybe they're waiting for 11:02 pst to change it...that way we're all even! LOL
Thanks again, Ange/Jess for all your hard work.
I now have 5 min. until blast-off!
Night ya'll, great work on the game and stuff!!
Well, I think I am going to have to try and hear the audio clip tomorrow. Night All!
Um sorry to ask, but how do I get a Golden Pass? Didn't they say that there would be directions on the flyOceanic website? Mine is the same as always.
Night
And thanks to you guy again for having this blog for all of us. It's been great fun.
well I guess it is obvious that Talbot was given one script for both the video and audio, as he uses the exact phrases from the video.
Scout, you are not alone... it hasn't changed for anyone.
Well I'm having the same probs as most people. I get same the Maxwell front page as always.
Thanks for the vid of the Oceanic Ad. Been hanging out for that.
I still haven't heard it yet. It's still loading.
Well Dale is going to the beach with his friends so I guess Stardust will have to wait.
Still nothing eh? Same here.
I suppose you're all going off to watch Lost now?
Thanks ded-
Well since none of the websites are working or are completely bombarded right now, I think I may call it a night. Or at least I'm taking a break ;)
Well i'm off for the night, its been like old times around here and I love it. But now its time to get som ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
find 815.com is up is it me or is there a new email from unknown? it says 411151057
No, that's an older one Anthony. We got it earlier in chapter 5.
did we ever get a password for tmg website? anyone hear the audio yet?
Well, I FINALLY got into the find815 site to do the activity. It took me several tries and then I just barely made it. Thanks to all who posted clues, espeically about keeping the up arrow pressed down at all times. I don't think it's possible to do all 10 in time if you don't.
I agree with the other comments about Talbot not looking surprised and Sam looking suspicious about Talbot's comments on TV. I think he's going to start a new quest and end up on the show after all.
Well, I did the vantage point thing. It gave you the numbers (000-815) to enter on ABC's main site for the lost bonus clip. It's Hurley's music video and it's also available on ABC's LOST page.
Then I played the vantage point game. I only saw 3 coordinates in the video, but that was enough to get me started. I searched through the mosaics and found only one more word that made sense - then I guessed and guessed right! So now I'm entered in the sweepstakes for the home theater equipment. I probably won't win, but it took me so long to get to tonight's 815 activity, I was pretty happy to be able to play the vantagepoint one.
the audio thing is now working! there is a whole new site with multiple links and login places. . . .looks like a new tle is starting
you have to wait like a FOREVER for it to load though. . . .BE PATIENT!!!!!!!
It'll be a bit weird if Sam shows up on LOST. It'll be around the same time he shows up on Underbelly on Channel 9 (for those players in Australia).
Ok a couple of confusing thoughts:
I was thinking about Naomi in S3 tells Sayid she was from the freighter that was part of a search and rescue mission. Then I was thinking about that deleted scene that Jimmy Kimmel showed last night where Sawyer assumes (or does he know) that Oceanic is going to come to the island and check off the names of the people on the plane. Could it be that Sam and the Christiane 1 found the wreckage, and that Oceanic sent the search and rescue team of which Naomi was a part? Then Oceanic for whatever reason has a cover up scheme when they realize there are survivors on the island and makes the 6 lie about other survivors? Why does Oceanic need to cover this up?
Second- timeline wise- we have another/same discrepancy since they aired the Oceanic commercial tonite in 2008 and Sam hacked the commercial. So again we would have to assume that Sam was searching in 2007 not 2004, but this does not make sense. Or does it? Am I just too tired to make sense of it all?
What are you all using for the user name and password on the TMG site? I have been using my own but receive an error. Are we supposed to be using a username and password from the Game? Southfields perhaps?
Also, I am wondering if they are just going to be restarting the Game on the www.find815.com site...and the commercial was to bring in additional LOST viewers for that since the FlyOceanicAir site had the same video it had at the start of the Game.
Does anyone know if they are going to be reairing tonight's episode this week? I just discovered that it did not record on our DVR.
Got the answer to my last question...they will be reshowing tonight's episode next week before episode 2.
Strange...the interview with Talbot is hosted on uclaradio.com, and I'm at UCLA right now.
Guys, I worked out how to make the Maxwell Group site work! Right click on the page, then choose re-load frame. The new stuff comes up when you do that. :)
Sorry, I should have said right click, then go to 'this frame' and click 'reload frame'.
Oscar is such a sleaze!
So, the media release was already recorded by Oscar before Sam's last video diary was recorded. All the words said in the glitches were part of the media release by Talbot.
patch, I picked up on that too. Is it just weird time stuff? The whole timeline for this game has me thinking of Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy - time is irrelevant (lunchtime doubly so... though I don't think that is quite so relevant to this).
All the words said in the glitches were part of the media release by Talbot.
Maybe that's what made Sam listen up when he heard Talbot on the news. Sam probably reviewed his video diary at some point and noticed the interference bits which might have originated from earlier recordings made by Tracey. So Sam thought to himself "hang on, that sounds familiar"?
I agree with scoutpost the interview is a coverup the 6, survivors feel guilt..Charlie haunts Hurley for this reason...I think eventually Jack breaks down to his addictions for these reasons. I think the maxwell group dropped a bunch of cash in the sixes pockets to be quiet. Other people are left behind on the island as part of this coverup. If you follow this...Ocaenic Air was bought by the Hanso guy....so the question is why the need for a coverup? Sam is the new hacker on this as Penny was a few seasons ago
Yes Oodles, you might be right. I didn;t think of that.
*lol* Carol. Now I think it's about time I re-read those books. :)
Rethought this...Maxwell group and Hanso may not be connected...
Good Morning. I just attempted to Log-in with The Maxwell Group. There is a new message there when you try to log in. Details are on the main page, but it looks like there is a password out there somewhere.
I also linked to an HQ version of last night's Oceanic commercial in case you hadn't found one yet. And, I added the UCLAradio link for the Talbot press release audio as I still had it open from last night. The audio links work, you just need to be patient with the loading.
Okay off to work, but on my drive I am going to ponder passwords and log-ins!
good luck....this is making me crazy....will sam hack the maxwell site?
Wow. I went to bed too early, but frankly feel the better for it. Thanks Patch for the reload frame thing. That's what it took for me to get the press release.
In case anyone else can't get new info on TMG, right click it and choose reload frame as Patch said.
Talbot's answers are well memorized. They are the same he gave in the TV interview. Having recently watched "The Lives of Others" (great movie BTW) that means he's lying.
Did you see the other UCLA page entitled "Flight 815"?
http://www.uclaradio.com/2008/01/31/flight-815/
It says:
UCLAradio.com points out that the character and story of Oscar Talbot are, in fact, fictional (very mysterious..), but by continuing your search you can still discover more about Flight 815..
hmmmm
Well I see now that I wasn't doing something wrong when logging on to the TMG site. Makes me wonder if the password is one of the Season 4 clues we obtained from the ABC site. I tried Southfields as the password but used my own user name and that didn't work, so there must be a username out there somewhere as well.
Good Morning All
I'm thinking the Eli Stone commercial was for people who haven't played the game yet. In the help section on the main page of find815 that tells how the game is run it said that the game would be left up 8 weeks after the inital five which seemed kind of odd to me at the time. But unless people go to this archived site or Darks it' not going to be much fun for them I don't think. Just my opinion.
Talbot's audio on the Maxwell
Group is finally showing up for me this morning. I wonder why we haven't found a login and password for it yet. It has to be something we already know.
Sayid'sGirl: I 100% agree about the find 815 stuff and the commercial, but the pending Talbot/Maxwell stuff is making me nuts. I hope there is just a little more endgame for us and not like an entire phase two :S. At the beginning of this there was mention of 8 weeks (before the 5 week time line on find 815). Sheesh I don't know where to begin to look for this log-in.
Yeah Iremember CC and DL saying they had planned a 2 month game but the writers strike forced the game to start late so there could be 3 weeks woth of game still laying in wait.
Heres to hoping that is true... lol
I've been trying different user names and passwords from the words we retrieved from the Clue Hunts but no luck yet.
I do hope there is a little more of the Game as well. I just re-watched the last video and it is clear that Sam is suspicious of Talbot.
the guy who saw Hurley....is he part of the maxwell coverup?...the guy in the business suit...abc may be trying to get us hooked on ARG because there are only 7 episodes left. Does anyone think the password for Maxwell is somewhere on the find815 sight? Just a guess.
I have been thinking about passwords, and the only think I can come up with is that it is hidden on the audio somehow.
Also, I agree about the commercial as well. I think it was a stunt to get more people to watch Eli Stone. Why would those of us who have already played, need to go back through find815.com.
Taunting us with a Golden Pass like that..........
Unless tallone is right, and the password is now hidden on the new front page or something.
arg! stupid maxwell group press release won't load for me. the ucla radio player just sits there. forever. it's driving me nuts! anyone happen to have a recording of it?
Maybe its in the Tracey R mails, one of the games, some of that weird writing all over everything? Maybe its in the audio from the final activity...I left that page open for a while with the sound on and there is a backward sound clip, I just don't have the technology to do anything with it.
I'm kind of at a loss and just sort of sitting here waiting for something to tell me what to do. Oh and watching large shards of ice fall from the sky.
I'm wondering if maybe the password is to come in a future commercial like next week. It would give all the people sucked in from last night time to catch up. I mean, TMG site has been sitting there for 5 weeks doing nothing, it could potentially sit for 8 more I guess.
oh I wonder... don't really want to back and hunt all the 815 . The thing is after hearing the podacst from Talbot we know there is a coverup going on...sam saw the wreckage under the water...so I assume he will appear somewhere with a clue. 6 people left the island two we know feel some guilt...sam said in the ad on eli stone..don't trust them..then the guy in the suit appered to Hurley...Hurley is haunted by charlie..I'm just spinning my wheels here.
Thewonderllama: I found this in the source cods of the UCLAradio data. Its the actual Talbot mp3 that the player uses. It may work better for you.
PS: In theory, if you right click and save as on that link I just posted you can save the interview as an mp3 right on your computer.
thanks, ange! i'm sure it'll be slow too, but at least i won't have to keep hearing 2 seconds at a time and it'll (maybe? eventually?) give me an eta.
Hey wonderllama, I did finally get it to save on my computer but it took a long time from the site. If you e-mail to the g-mail I'll attach it to an e-mail and send it to you.
ange, i just saw your message and noticed that my download finished too. phew! thanks for the help and offer though!
I bet the experiment is back..can no longer get Mittelwork's image off hanso site..the 6 know it..
Sorry for all the reposts, my computer is possessed, I swear!
jess LOL
I was just going to say blogger must have taken over your computer.
OMG you know what would be cool
if one of the flashbacks is like, an on-island flashback of jack or something
but then we find out
it's a flashforward
which would mean that jack returns to the island !
wouldnt that be SICKK
Hey, gang: Been busy trying to catch up everywhere for last night's awesome show.
Agreed that last night's commercial was just trying to get some people involved in Find815. What a disappointment that we don't get Golden Passes...otherwise we would all be visiting each other all over the world! LOL
I, too, still have not heard Talbot's stuff. I'm working on it. Could the Maxwell site just be a page set up for the press release audio to "end" the game? And there is no user name/password to get into it? I know that's a downer and doesn't give us any really big payoff. Just a thought.
maven said...Could the Maxwell site just be a page set up for the press release audio to "end" the game?
I though that last night when the log-in was still inactive, but now it is ready to receive the correct UN and PW, we just don't have one.
Also check your e-mail. :D
I must hang my head in shame - I meant "time is an illusion". Then again it has been a while since I read HHGG so even that recall of it may be wrong.
Ange, you know Fenris put up a reversed sound clip on the front page don't you?
I must've missed reading that this was supposed to be an eight week game. That might explain a few things. The way it stands at the moment it's like the perfect season cliffhanger... next game season it will be findthereal815.com
Carol: TV Guide had at one point said 8 weeks before Find 815 went live.
I'm not sure what Fenris has on the front page but if it's what I asked him to put up it's supposed to be reversed from what we heard in the game. It was emailed to us by Robin Hood. I'lll double check when I get home. iPhone doesn't do that LOL ;).
Thanks, Ange! ;) You're so sweet! I did listen and it still seems like the wrap-up to the game.
It is weird that ABC would promote the game again (via that commercial on Eli Stone) and try to get more people playing it again. But don't they all know the outcome? The freckage was found? Also, the fact that this might be an 8 week game might include 3 weeks of this re-promotion to get more people roped into the show. IMO
Could I just ask that people be a bit careful with spoilers from the show on this blog for now, as we haven't seen the first ep. yet in Australia. I've been skipping a few posts once I realised they contained stuff from Lost, and I'm really trying not to get spoiled.Thank you. :)
Patch you really need to download it to save us all the trouble.... Carol did and so did Gatekepa (australia and New Zealand) so get on the ball man... Just kidding... lol
Carol: I just listened to the sound bytes Fenris put up. Yes, they are reversed audio from Sam's last video diary. It's hard to make out what they are saying but it seems to be actually parts of Oscar Talbot's press release interview. Specifically you can hear the word "two" "common" and "half-hour" very clearly. I just listened to the press release again and it is MOST CERTAINLY this audio that is embedded in Sam's Video Diary. As a matter of fact I am going to go update the main page with this.
If you are still having trouble listening to the press release I loaded it to sendspace. You can download it using this link It takes about a min.
Also Carol, thanks for making me have a listen to that actually...good one!
Patch: Fair point, we will do our best!
Oh, it's ok guys. If the show relates to the game then you go for it. I'll just stay away until after it's aired here. :)
Ded- I don't want to download it, even though I'm tempted to.
You are not alone Patch. Same here. Fenris too I guess and whoever else is from the other side of the ponds.
Guys,
just picked up something over at Lostpedia.
Check it out. Could be fake. Could be real.
http://www.youtube.com/user/D5n1i8F
Oodles: Where exactly did you find that on Lostpedia?
Maven: http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Talk:The_Maxwell_Group
Right at the bottom.
"Snake in the Mailbox" refers to the Season 3 finale.
Thanks, Oodles. I don't know how to figure out if something is legit or not. My gut says no. I was talking with Ange earlier and I told her that we would love for this to go on and on, but I really think the game is over. I feel that the Maxwell site was set up as a place to put the Talbot press release...which wrapped everything that happened. The login boxes were just a ploy.
Also, ABC basically restarted the game last night via the Oceanic commercial on Eli Stone to try and grab in more viewers. Good marketing, but bad for us. LOL I don't think they would continue the game with those that started 5 weeks ago and try to start it up again with a new group of people/fans.
I think we have enough on our plate now with what we saw last night on the show!
I watched that video that may be the user name and password for maxwell....what i saw.... the numbers 16, 23, a word which I am not sure but is 4 letters,,,something like snap,then the number 4,the word mailbox...it went fast...so my accuracy may be off,then the number 8. went to 815 and checked mail on the computer and phone...didn't get much there.
In the context of Find815, could "snake in the mailbox" be referring to Tracey? (since we suspect her of being in cohouts with TMG while pretending to help Sam)
The youtube username also looks suspiciously like a password ...
oodles you got it before I finished did you try the user name?
Tallone: Did you used to go by the name tallguyinengland?
maxwell links from this page no longer work....it's been shut off I think
maven, I fear you may be right (except I have nothing to ponder not having seen S4-1 yet :( )
But why have a website with UN/PW up for 5 weeks and then naught?
I mean in TLE we had to figure out so many of those, it seems natural to presume we have to now, doesn't it? But perhaps it's a wild goose chase as you say.
Actually just realized that D5n1i8F=FinD815
tallone, the numbers are there and the words 'Snake' and 'Mailbox'.
The video may be a clever little fake. But then, maybe not...
Anyway, snooze time here at UTC+0.
Nighty night.
no this the only name i got...did you try to get on maxwell?
ps
tallone, yes I did.
UN traceyr and traceyr1975 (from the youtube account) with PW D5n1i8F
and many, many others ...
oh this got us no where ....I'm done for today
Oh well, it looks like The Maxwell group site is gone anyway, so I will say bye-bye and see you all at TLC next week!
Thank you so much one more time to Ange, Jess and Fenris!
Finally, I'm beginning to make sense with some of you! LOL
Everyone come on over to TLC.
And ditto, one more time: Huge thanks to Ange, Jess and Fenris for making the last 5 weeks so much fun!
I'm getting url not found. This is weird!
Hey gang...the site is not gone, I'm looking at it now.
But anyway, it really doesn't matter.
Enjoy the weekend everyone, and don't forget to listen to TLC Podcast. They are recording it and someone you know (that would be me) is going to recap the game on it.
That certainly is weird, what happened to The Maxwell group since last night that the page is no longer found? Maybe there is something else coming or something
(me hopes me hopes me hopes)
C-ya
I dunno, maybe TMG site is just a big nothing like Fenris said. :-( What are the new game players going to go to if it's down? Weird.
Thanks for the YouTube link Oodles! It certainly looks real to me...
http://www.the-maxwell-group.com/
is back online with some interesting changes!
It's not over until the fat lady sings ...
new screen for maxwell up--I tried the username and passwords oodles suggested---didn't work-were these for the old screen? anyway...the address is http://the-maxwell-group.com when you google this it isn't the first thing that comes up
the video site on you tube with the snake in the mailbox.....this person only joined u-tube on 1/19/08.
sorry I am just repeating stuff...
tallone, the UN/PW were nothing but guesses. They did not work for the old site either. As far as I know no one has yet found the correct UN/PW if indeed it is 'out there' yet at all.
they updated the site ?? there MUST be a username and password . TPTB, HELP !!
Well that's an interesting new look for the site. Anyone managed to figure out what that thing is with all the strings? Or the symbol behind the compass?
This is from J. Wood's pre-episode blog post discussing in part the Find 815 game: Maybe the Maxwell Group got in touch with Sam because, like Juliet, he has some skill they require, like working with codes. Looks like J. Wood, like me, think that Maxwell may be linked to Ben's Others.
Could the picture be the deck of a sailing boat?
Can't figure out the symbol. Could be perhaps Greek, Coptic, Arabic, or even a symbol for a star or planet?
I must agree that I think TMG is just back up for the new people going through the game. I mentioned to Ange last night that I thought it was stupid for TPTB to take it down.
Although those are interesting pics there. I have no clue what they are.
It is strange that they changed the look. I just have a hard time believing that they did so much to get new people to look at the game and are going to add more to it in the mean time.
I think I just figured out the "Queen's College, Dept. of Physics" clue:
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Donovan
Memphish/oodles: My first thought on the picture was ship. Then I decided that the new background looks like some type of weaving loom. It looks like the huge things I see when I take my students on field trips to the Industrial Revolution era textile mill in Lowell.
Jess: Maybe they are going to let the new people play for the next 7 weeks and then add something else. Maybe the second round players will get the username and password as their endgame? The only problem with that is that they can all play at their own pace, but maybe there will be a new commercial or press release until the mini season is over or something. Either way, I agree that we are done, until/if they tell us that there is something we need to do there.
I think it may be a ship model.
I'm also guessing that the Oceanic Commercial and allowing people out of the loop to catch up may have something to do with the next episode. I'm just guessing based on the title of the episode which I saw on the main page of Lostpedia.
Memphish...am thinking the same thing...
I don't think the TMG site is just up for the new players...why would they have a shell site with a user name and password box if its not going anywhere...and especially updating the look? And the site has been saying all along it would be up Feb 1 so there has got to me something more to it.
I am wondering if Oodle's You Tube find is the password (D5N1i8F)...perhaps with a different user name than Oodle tried above. I also think its interesting that the password is not blocked out when you type.
I bet TPTB are having a good laugh at all of us trying to figure this out ;)
00000062 00000073 00002140 00001429 000000B6
000138F5 00007DB1 00006151 000000D0 000138DB
Might be something...see the main page.
I just noticed that the compass on the updated maxwell site has the compass arrow pointing in roughly the same direction (if you flip it for east-west congruity) as OMG42's arm was pointing in that flickr pic on DarkUFO's site.
There must definitely be something to the East is West thing since they changed the compass on the maxwell group site but kept the direction reversed.
Well, I promise to eat my words if I was wrong and this game is not over! LOL
I'm just a little confused (as usual) though: If ABC is trying to get more people to start the game and play catch-up with us, why does the Maxwell site still have the press release on it. Any person new to the game would click on that and basically hear the ending. Right?
the new picture on TMG site looks to me like a wooden model ship - the white & black cloth on the left look like the sails
Summary is up!
Finally. Lol. It's long as I wanted to put in some overall summary stuff at the end.
Will it be the last one? Who knows!
the site for the D5n1i8F was changed when you go on the subscriber page some of the videos were taken off...there was some stuff in Russian and some bank robbery videos.....you only see the snake in the mailbox video.
did you guys see this on you tube? It may be old says may 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ7OLYd0UE0
This is a tv news report
i saw this on the lost message board so I won't take credit for it,but it talks about time travel and memory of time,I only mention that because of the flash forwards..there is discussion regarding the "arrows" of time,,,also it makes reference to the "Maxwell Demon" I saw someone else mentioned the physics journal from 1861..the maxwell group compass and "arrow" are not properly aligned..this takes awhile to read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_of_time#The_particle_physics_.28weak.29_arrow_of_time
i saw this on the lost message board so I won't take credit for it,but it talks about time travel and memory of time,I only mention that because of the flash forwards..there is discussion regarding the "arrows" of time,,,also it makes reference to the "Maxwell Demon" I saw someone else mentioned the physics journal from 1861..the maxwell group compass and "arrow" are not properly aligned..this takes awhile to read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_of_time#The_particle_physics_.28weak.29_arrow_of_time
also you can lift the maxwell logo off the site...I zoomed in on it...didn't see anything...click on the compass..tried to find UN and PW everywhere! no luck
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